Aug 7, 2026
This episode of the podcast is going to explore what actually happens inside psilocybin assisted therapy, from the first conversation to the last integration session.
Specifically, we are going to be walking the entire arc of a legal psilocybin therapy engagement through the lens of naturopathic medicine: preparation, the session itself, integration, the risks, and how to tell whether any of it is right for you. Our guest is Dr. JJ Pursell.
What You'll Learn About:
🌿 What naturopathic medicine actually is, and how its root-cause
approach differs from the conventional model
🍄 What psilocybin is, and what "psilocybin therapy" legally means
in Oregon (which is far less than you'd expect)
🛋️ Inside a session: the service centre, the eye shades, the music,
the waves, and what a facilitator is and is not there to do
🔄 Why she requires every client to commit to integration work
before she'll agree to work with them at all
💧 What "alleviating suffering" really means, why it isn't the same
as feeling good, and why the hardest material is usually the most
useful
⚠️ The real risks: the bolt response, prolonged psychosis, cardiac
contraindications, HPPD, and coming out the other side feeling
worse
🚩 How to find a facilitator you can trust, the red flags to walk
away from, and how to know when it's the wrong time entirely
🌀 Episode Show Notes and other Relevant Links
📚 Check out JJ's book Psilocybin Therapy: Understanding How
to Use Nature's Psychedelics for Mental Health
USA: https://bookshop.org/p/books/psilocybin-therapy-understanding-how-to-use-nature-s-psychedelics-for-mental-health-dr-jj-pursell/7796363e51a70603
CAD: https://www.indiebookstores.ca/book/9781643262000/
🩺 Dr. Pursell's website: https://drjjpursell.com
🤝 Follow JJ: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook
🍄 This episode is sponsored by Amentara. Use promo code ATTM22 for 22% off your first order.
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Episode Breakdown
- (00:00) Opening
- (03:05) Ad Break (Amentara)
- (03:48) Interview Begins
- (06:47) What naturopathic medicine is
- (15:14) What is psilocybin
- (19:45) What psilocybin therapy actually looks like
- (30:53) Why integration matters
- (44:43) What alleviating suffering really means
- (51:07) Patreon Break
- (53:14) Decomposing the Shadow: why the hard stuff isn't a bad trip
- (1:02:19) Wow, mushrooms sound so good, where could it go wrong
- (1:09:49) Ad Break (Amentara)
- (1:10:53) Choosing a safe facilitator, and the red flags to watch for
- (1:23:17) How do you know it's the right time
- (1:35:30) One thing to leave you with
- (1:37:32) Follow up links
- (1:39:05) Outro