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Sep 9, 2023

Dr. Adele Lafrance joins us to explore psychedelics and the healing power of Love.

Our conversation begins with an exploration of emotional processing and how difficulties and deficiencies in emotional processing both our mental health, our relationships, and our general wellbeing. We then step into psychedelics and the role they play in supporting our emotional processing capacities.

From there we turn towards Love, what it is and all the accidental ways we conflate it with things that can include love but aren’t love itself: romance, lust, infatuation, attachment, obsession, etc. We talk about the healing power of Love, both in our day-to-day lives and in various forms of healthcare, and why as a society we need to better learn how to wield and integrate that healing power of love. We then talk about encounters with Love as a transpersonal force during psychedelic experiences, the role of love in supporting people in their psychedelic experiences, and even the strange phenomenon of being harmed by too much Love on 5-MeO-DMT.

Of course, although love itself is not sex, with any mention of love we evoke consideration of sexuality, sexual dynamics, and sex itself. Thus, we also talk about sexual healing, the complexity of sexual energy and behaviour in therapy, and even the risks, challenges, and opportunities of having sex while on psychedelics.



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Episode Breakdown

  • (0:00) Opening
  • (1:35) Episode overture and guest bio
  • (5:45) Patreon thanks
  • (6:43) Interview begins
  • (7:44) Emotional processing and the damaging impact of poor emotional processing
  • (12:49) Culturally conditioned deficits in emotional processing
  • (19:50) Learning to own triggers, rather than project them
  • (22:14) The role of psychedelics in emotional processing (and vice versa)
  • (28:02) Our emotions are the most reliably true aspect of our psychedelic experiences
  • (31:18) Disambiguating “Love”
  • (37:01) Love as a transpersonal force
  • (40:01) Love in psychedelic experiences
  • (44:08) Being harmed by too much love on 5-MeO-DMT
  • (48:03) Our sociocultural context can negatively impact our psychedelic integration
  • (50:05) The role of love in our healing journeys
  • (51:48) The role of love in supporting people in psychedelic experiences
  • (53:59) We need to acknowledge love is a transpersonal force
  • (56:40) The complexity of sexual energy and behaviour in therapy
  • (1:05:11) Psychedelics and sexual healing, and sex on psychedelics
  • (1:15:57) The Love Project: what it is, how it came to be, and how you can get involved
  • (1:23:33) Closing regards
  • (1:24:25) Outro