Jun 26, 2022
A.J. Bond—author of Discomfortable: What Is Shame and How Can We Break Its Hold—joins us on Adventures Through The Mind to talk about what shame is, what it feels like, and how it impacts our sense of self and perception of the world.
We also talk about healthy vs unhealthy shame; internal vs. external shame; attachment styles and shame’s link to our developmental past and early relationship with our parents; intimacy and how shame hinders our ability to truly connect with others; unconditional love and ayahuasca’s impact on AJ’s healing through shame; and, of course, how to navigate shame in a way that supports healing the wounds around which our shame directs us.
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Episode Breakdown
- (0:00) Opening | Ad for upcoming workshop sponsoring this video
- (6:01) Interview Begins
- (6:31) Why shame is an important topic for psychedelic culture
- (8:31) Shame: what it is and what its made of
- (11:57) The affect of shame
- (13:34) Shame as an evolutionary survival adaptation
- (21:07 ) Healthy vs. unhealthy shame
- (24:30) Internal vs. external Shame
- (27:58) Narcissism, canceling, and toxic shame
- (34:35) Shame’s link to our developmental past and early relationship with our parents
- (40:01) Healing the past to liberate ourselves from unhealthy shame | getting discomfortable with shame
- (46:18) Why how we do a thing matters as much as the thing we do
- (51:58) Bringing our shame healing/liberation to a systemic level
- (55:40) All the ways shame will weave itself into your healing
- (57:32) Intimacy and how shame hinders our ability to truly connect with others
- (58:18) Connection and relationship is essential components of our healing
- (1:05:07 ) Unconditional love and ayahuasca’s impact on AJ’s healing through shame
- (1:11:59) Develop a meta-scaffolding that allows us to be with our reactivity in a healthy way
- (1:14:06) Some basic steps for navigating shame
- (1:18:26) Follow-up and social links
- (1:20:41) Outro | Info about workshop sponsoring this video
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